Mortars....

thats it, BUT i,m not to shore if its very legal, you know what i mean,

toy rockets would be great BUT very dangerous, thats why i,m going down the bungy/spring line, its all gotta be safe, and thats for us using them and were we,r lobbing things to

i,v still to get the brit army lazer vest yet to,

Yup, as Warren says, "I,m not to shore if its very legal". It's actually rather illegal unless you have the correct firearms licence.

Stick to Bungies or MOSCARTS for propulsion.

I've been playing around with a few concepts for chucking Nerf "pocket howlers" and have found that after a few shots the fins on the howlers have an annoying habit of coming off the shaft of the Howler. One thing I have toyed with is moulding up rockets out of expanding polyurethane foam. They wont be reusable, but cost-per-unit should be low. However, machining up the moulds will not be fun....

Especially since ive just cracked the cross slide on the Mill

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The best (not the easiest) way of building a mortar would be to use an air cannon, i believe that a few sites/game organisers in the US are doing this already for Artillery.

the nerfs are good fun, BUT you allways end up looseing the bugger

i did have quite a few, small to large,
a few years back i was inondated by mice in the work shop later found all the small one 1/2 eaten away
you can allso get ones that qlow orange, good for night games,

the bungys chuck the larger nerfs out to about 35-45 mts, but again this only works if the posts are IN place, or you can use two trees and tigh them of,
we,r going to have 3-4 artilery pieces, mounted idealy on platforms that can swivel, its that or give each gun an arc to cover, this would be handy as they are only 50mts from the village area,

i,v allso got one of these coming to, just to double check the cradle to see if theres any improvment to be made on the leather ones i,v dun,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prezzybox-WildS ... 48-9643042
sending water bombs over 300ft

is that 50mm waist pipe ? you could allways cut the fins down a little,

Yes as I have said above for a mini nerf howler you need 48 - 50mm for an air tight fit 54 should do for a spring fire though.

Also what do you need to save money filling up a moscart shell with gas?
Cheapest option other than bike pump

Yes as I have said above for a mini nerf howler you need 48 - 50mm for an air tight fit 54 should do for a spring fire though.

Also what do you need to save money filling up a moscart shell with gas?
Cheapest option other than bike pump

i was thinking of trying to use one of those co2 powered bike pumps, attached to a valve. less hassle than pumping the bloody thing up, or spending £60 on a moscart!

I was thinking of trying to use one of those co2 powered bike pumps, attached to a valve. less hassle than pumping the bloody thing up, or spending £60 on a moscart!

Sound interesting!
It's great to see so many people thinking about how to do this and actually trying to do it.
I think expanding foam would be too light on its own to get distance so weight would have to be added inside.

I still think the whistling nerf is the way to go and think this guy in this video has got it sorted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnFiW1LYtts

I have sent him an email so will see what he says.

Warren since you have used nerfs in games already and you say "they get lost easy", do you advise you keep them in standard colours rather than paint them?
I don't think anyone of us wants to throw £4 away on each shot especially the ones that miss the target and go in the brush.
Also it's not as though the fields are going to be strewn with these things and if it is red or yellow when traveling in the air I think that is fine, after all what colour is the tail flame on a rocket?

In terms of the carriage of the nerf in the game just a series of plastic tubes taped or hot glued together and stuffed in a bag would be fine that way the fins will not get bent and will be easy to get out for use.

You could even put them on a form of belt inside tubes, just paint the tubes not the nerf.

if its the biger ones make up a mortar bomb carrier, 3 large pipes in a line fixed to some webbing :0 look good and you can issue them to your mortar group to carry,

I found the following posted on the WWII Airsoft Association forum by 2nd Bat;

With two inch pipe set as an inner barrel inside your Pak barrel you can design a very powerful "gun" that can launch Nerf footballs an easy 130 yards in direct fire. (Angled plunging fire is much safer however unless you're firing at vehicles) I use a individually built "shell" that slides in the breech and twists into place to align with the inner barrel. It uses a CO2 adapter and 2 inch ball valve with a small gas reservoir and a short section of two inch tube which is just large enough to contain the Nerf rocket. A crew can have two or three rounds ready to go and operate the gun from behind the armored screen. You open the breech, slide the round in, twist it into place and on command twist the ball valve. For effect I add TALC powder in with the nerf rocket so there is a large signature of smoke with the shot. These shells are uniform and also work with my 57mm recoiless rifle replica. You can also pre-load several hundred BBs by placing them between two plugs of foam waffers cut from swimming pool snakes. These flechettes rounds however should be fired in a plunging fire trajectory as they can be quite painfull inside of 60 feet and outright dangerous inside 30 feet.

I'm trying to figure out how to shoot a functional illumination round using a bright glow stick inside a sabot that seperates upon firing and deploys a small parachute to keep the glow light suspended. Obviously real flares are the way to go here but I'm trying to come up with a non pyro lightening system for fire safety.

got the water bomb mortar,
ok its ok, i must have been lucky as its prity well made and after reading the coments from that review i think he was talking sh*te,
its very easy to cock, plastic but quite strong,
and all of the small water bombs i used went ok, no brakes inside,
it didant go more than 10mts BUT it dus work, and considering thers only 4-5 inches of rubber its not bad, i think theres room for a good little launcher in the designe,
thers even hard rubber shock absorbers fitted to stop the cup from braking out of the muzzel,
but i,l do it in the shape of a PIAT so double the size and wing up the bungies to give it as much power as possible, even if it takes two men to arm it oh just like the piat

i cant see any point in tring to increase the power in this one cos it,l just brake up after time, but it,s served its purpos,

Why not make your own WW2 styles 'nerf' mortar rounds? If genuine nerfs are £4 each and don't look the part, we could make replicas of British 2" mortars out of a length of soft-wood dowel with foam fins (cut out of silver wood-flooring underlay) stuck on one end and the main body made out of a length of that instant pipe-lagging foam to be slid over and stuck to the dowel. Could experimnet with diffrent wood dowels for weight and best flight (beech for a heavy mortar weights, pine for medium, and un-sculpted balsa for light?). I'll see if I can mock anything up.

good idear mate,

and add a mk5 inside
smokes we can use on there own,

the only small prob with useing flash bags are the fuse time ok if long but we,l end up with airburst if to short, smokes could be the more safer way ie if a smoke lads within 10mts your dead,

Firing exploding pyros = illegal, firing smoke for "signalling purposes" = legal.

even when launched via a bungy ?
if they are, then its back to the good old nurfs as area bombs

Bit more on the mortar front for you chaps to consider....wikipedia has a goodish thread on the 2" mortar for starters, B&Q have some downpipe available in black or brown with 53mm diameter and in 3m lengths so that way you'd get a few mortars from the one tube-price is under £6, the only problem that there is concerns the endpiece as you want a plugged base, http://www.relics.org.uk/ make 2 versions of the 2" mortar -the standard heavy type and the lighter (misnamed)para version, these are priced at £72 and £68 respectively.

So perhaps the answer might be get one relics one and then copy that to make your own airsoft one and then make more from the rest of the downpipe???? BTW relics also make models of 3 of the bombs used by the 2"mortar to wit- illuminating, HE and smoke (£16 each). They also do a PIAT at £295 (rather rich that) and K guns for £275, Vickers for £595 (can get you a real one for £1200), heavy 50 for £495....(but bear in mind that these get regularly slated on the WW2 reenactors forum)

Oh before I forget on YouTube theres a vid of a chap shooting a nerf from a M203 GL using a KA gas grenade....looks cool although a 2" mortar (or for our Germanic friends a 5cm LI morsar) would be cooler

what about this...
http://www.kiteworld.co.uk/acatalog/Kit ... html#a1026

interesting eh???

does anyone have any schematics of British and German period mortars, just that if I'm gonna knock one up its should at least look the part.

i was thinking of using a small compressed air cylinder to launch a cardboard sabot full of dried peas, hopefully the sabot should split in mid-air and rain down the peas on the target area.

what about this...
http://www.kiteworld.co.uk/acatalog/Kit ... html#a1026

interesting eh???

I have 3 Nerf Vortex Pocket Howler with Whistle
and they will work great just have to make the launcher